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Sep 7, 2018
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And so I but finished upgrading a pre-built desktop I accept. I've got a good setup, the specs are:

256gb Samsung 850 pro ssd
External 4tb Seagate hard drive
Gtx 1070 ti
i5 8400 (water cooled)
460w psu
8gb ddr4 2666 ram (1x8 single stick)
Intel Z370 Mobo
Alienware Aurora R7 instance

So my trouble is when I'thou playing most of my games the usage of my cpu and gpu is pretty low (like 50-65%). I don't know if this is just a cpu bottleneck or what but then in other games the cpu usage will be like xc-100% for the first core but the rest will exist effectually 20-50%. I'one thousand only wondering why this happens and how to fix information technology. This causes my frametime and frame rates to spike upwards and down pretty ofttimes and the games volition stutter a lot (v-sync on or off), it's pretty frustrating. In that location are a few games though that piece of work nifty and the gpu will run at lxxx-99% all the time (five-sync off). Is this a trouble with the games or my hardware? Also do I need to alter settings in the Nvidia Command Console or update the bios or something?

Thanks in advance

Darkbreeze
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Yes, the retentiveness is probable problematic. Information technology does not pose a risk to the hardware like the employ of a power supply that is not sufficient for the demands of the arrangement AND is likely a depression quality OEM style model also, does. I would worry well-nigh the retentivity later.

The power supply is likely backside a shroud. You lot will probably need to take the side panel on the other side of the case, off, and the PSU likely either comes out that manner or you can run across the characterization, maybe, from that side.

I wouldn't say that replacing the case is essential, unless you simply want to, merely knowing what model of case or prebuilt system yous have would aid the states give you better advise and options, rather than only assuming that you'll take to replace stuff. You never know, you could have a good instance and power supply already and not know information technology although I think that's pretty doubtful on the power supply side of things.

Anyhow, it'southward upward to you of form. I personally would desire to make sure my hardware did non go damaged by a power supply that zapped something when it died due to existence over taxed and the protection declining because information technology was a cheap model, or whatever of ten other things that could occur.

Also, equally far as the memory goes, there are Plenty of people gaming on 8GB of RAM that don't accept whatever substantial issues. It is not mandatory to have 8GB of RAM for gaming. Is it ameliorate? Is it appropriate? Are y'all likely to have fewer performance related issues than with 8GB? Yes, yes and yeah. Is it essential? No, it's not. There are still very few games that recommend you have 16GB of RAM and none of those that practice Require information technology.

Darkbreeze
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When you upgraded the organisation, what did you upgrade FROM?

Did you practise a totally new, make clean install of Windows after the upgrade?

What is the model number of your 460w power supply?

Have you bothered to look at the thermal sensors for the CPU and graphics menu?

What is the model of your CPU cooler and case, and how many case fans do you take installed? In what configuration are the fans for the CPU libation AND for the case fans?

Darkbreeze
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HWmonitor, Open hardware monitor, Realtemp, Speccy, Speedfan, Windows utilities, CPU-Z and most of the arranged motherboard utilities are often not the best selection as they are not always accurate. Some are actually grossly inaccurate, especially with certain chipsets or specific sensors that for whatever reason they tend to not like or work well with. I've found HWinfo or CoreTemp to exist the MOST accurate with the broadest range of chipsets and sensors. They are besides nigh religiously kept up to date.

CoreTemp is neat for just CPU thermals including core temps or distance to TJmax on AMD platforms.

HWinfo is great for pretty much EVERYTHING, including CPU thermals, core loads, core temps, parcel temps, GPU sensors, HDD and SSD sensors, motherboard chipset and VRM sensor, all of it. Always select the "Sensors only" option when running HWinfo.

In cases where information technology is relevant and y'all are seeking help, then in order to help you, information technology's oftentimes necessary to SEE what'southward going on, in the upshot i of united states of america tin can pick something out that seems out of place, or other indicators that just tin can't exist communicated via a text but post. In these cases, posting an image of the HWinfo sensors or something else can be extremely helpful. That may not be the instance in YOUR thread, but if it is then the information at the following link will show you how to do that:

*How to post images in Tom'due south hardware forums

Run HWinfo and expect at system voltages and other sensor readings.

Monitoring temperatures, core speeds, voltages, clock ratios and other reported sensor data can often aid to pick out an result correct off the bat. HWinfo is a skillful manner to become that data and in my experience tends to be more than accurate than some of the other utilities available. CPU-Z, GPU-Z and Core Temp all have their uses merely HWinfo tends to have information technology all laid out in a more convenient mode and so you can commonly see what i sensor is reporting while looking at some other instead of having to flip through various tabs that have specific groupings.

After installation, run the utility and when asked, choose "sensors only". The other window options have some utilise merely in virtually cases everything you need will be located in the sensors window. If you're taking screenshots to mail for troubleshooting, it will most likely require taking three screenshots and scrolling down the sensors window between screenshots in order to capture them all.

It is almost helpful if you can take a series of HWinfo screenshots at idle, afterwards a cold boot to the desktop. Open HWinfo and wait for all of the Windows startup processes to complete. Usually virtually 4 or five minutes should exist plenty. Take screenshots of all the HWinfo sensors.

Next, run something demanding similar Prime95 version 26.6 or Sky benchmark. Take another set of screenshots while either of those is running and then we tin can run across what the hardware is doing while under a load.

*Download HWinfo

For temperature monitoring only, I feel Cadre Temp is the nigh accurate and also offers a quick visual reference for core speed, load and CPU voltage:

*Download Core Temp

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I suspect that ability supply is non enough wattage.
Sep vii, 2018
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I didn't practise a new install of windows when I upgraded. I upgraded the gpu from a gtx 1050 ti to the 1070 ti and I upgraded my hard drive from a 1tb toshiba 7200rpm to the 850 pro. I don't know what the model number of the psu is I just know it's the standard Alienware one. Aye the thermals really are doing pretty well, the cpu is commonly around 60ish C and the gpu is usually around 70 C while gaming. There are 2 front fans and 1 dorsum fan in the case, I don't know what water cooler model is, it's too just the stick Alienware part.
Sep seven, 2018
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I've also noticed that since the Creators Update my performance has been worse, could this be the cause? Should I restore windows to a previous version? Also msi afterburner usually indicates that the voltage frequently goes between 0 and 1, I don't know what this means only is that okay while gaming?
Sep 7, 2018
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Aye according to pcpartpicker, 460w is enough for my system
but non by that much.
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So my problem is when I'one thousand playing near of my games the usage of my cpu and gpu is pretty low (similar 50-65%). I don't know if this is just a cpu bottleneck or what but then in other games the cpu usage will be like xc-100% for the offset core merely the balance volition be around 20-50%.

Yes this is normal for lots and lots of games,many only utilize i core and most others are limited to 3 or iv threads,that's why and so many people say that you lot don't demand more than then 4 cores for gaming.
What you can try is to lock all your cores to the aforementioned clockspeed then that all the threads of the game run at the same speed,if 1 runs faster then the other(due south) it causes stutters.
(A second stick of ram wouldn't hurt as well)

Darkbreeze
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What is near of import, is what the CPU and motherboard chipset from the previous congenital were? When you move from one chipset to a newer or unlike one, it is ALWAYS a very good idea to do a clean install. I've only seen success, good success, using the current installation when changing CPU generations and chipsets maybe twenty% of the time and that's usually when changing to a very similar chipset such as Z170 to Z270 where there are not significant changes overall to the chipset.

Also, peradventure equally important is the fact that even FROM Board TO Board within the aforementioned chipset, y'all will have changes in storage controllers, and this is even more pronounced when irresolute to an entirely new chipset. Storage controller conflicts can cause a boatload of bug from very small barely noticeable ones to ginormous bug.

It would be a REALLY, Actually skillful idea to practice a make clean install of the operating organization.

As well, if you have not done then yet, it would be a actually skilful idea to make sure you have the very latest BIOS version installed.

There are no "standard" Alienware power supplies. From model to model they may use entirely unlike models and brands for the power supply. Anything from Delta to some dumpster burn quality unit could be in at that place. There will exist a label on the side of the PSU someplace with the model number on it. That would be essential in knowing whether the quality of that unit of measurement is any expert or not and whether or not it'south even a unit of measurement that is probable able to back up the total listed capacity that information technology's supposed to be able to supply continuously. Oft, these kind of prebuilt system units cannot do that.

Also, knowing the model of the PSU would permit us to know whether or not that unit tin be easily replaced or whether it is some kind of proprietary grade factor.

Honestly, Alienware is non known for including high quality ability supplies with information technology'south prebuilt systems and often they are small form factor units. Sometimes they are even proprietary and crave that y'all just ditch the instance and PSU and get entirely new ones when upgrading to aftermarket hardware. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't Depends on the model.

What is the model number of your WHOLE prebuilt organization? That might answer a lot of questions.

Also, information technology is patently impossible that that 430w unit could adequately ability that 1070ti. Even if it was a corking aftermarket unit, Seasonic or something equally good, at only 460w you are well below the recommended capacity of 550w.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Being that it is Non a great aftermarket power supply in all probability, that just makes the matter worse. It'due south highly hundred-to-one that your system is able to perform at optimal performance with a cheap OEM 460w unit that can likely barely supply the necessary ability for the components that it originally came with, much less the hardware you've upgraded to. Aside from doing a make clean install and updating the bios, getting at least a 550w high quality ability supply, something that has been reviewed and shown to be a quality model from somebody like Seasonic, Corsair, Antec, EVGA, FSP or XFX, and non all of even those brands units are all good, should be your #1 priority.

I cannot stress how important information technology is to non run a system on a low quality unit of measurement, much less one that is clearly and essentially below the recommended chapters.

I would also tend to hold that just having 8GB is probable to hamper operation in some titles. This is not going to be your primary event even so, only i that you lot might want to accost at some point subsequently these other issues are all sorted out.

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And so my problem is when I'chiliad playing most of my games the usage of my cpu and gpu is pretty low (like l-65%). I don't know if this is but a cpu bottleneck or what merely then in other games the cpu usage will be like ninety-100% for the kickoff core but the residue will be around 20-50%.

Yes this is normal for lots and lots of games,many only utilise one core and most others are express to three or 4 threads,that'southward why so many people say that yous don't demand more then 4 cores for gaming.
What you can try is to lock all your cores to the same clockspeed then that all the threads of the game run at the same speed,if one runs faster so the other(southward) it causes stutters.
(A second stick of ram wouldn't hurt equally well)

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Ok thank yous, how do I lock the clock speed of all the cpu cores and what speed should I lock them to?
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I think the psu is a proprietary class factor practice I guess I need to go a new instance and psu. I didn't change the cpu or Mobo when I upgraded the system. Thank you for the info besides.
Darkbreeze
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Of form. And then, do united states both a favor. Have the side panel off the instance, find the sticker on the side of the PSU that has the unit specifications on information technology. It has to have one, unless you took it off, considering it is constabulary that all ability supplies come up with ane showing the specifications.

Find the model number on the sticker and mail that here. That will allow us to know exactly what nosotros are dealing with and become us some specific data about that unit.

Or, get united states of america the exact specific model of the prebuilt organization you purchased. PSU would be better, merely system model might be helpful besides.

What was the GPU card model that it HAD in it before y'all upgraded the GPU card?

Sep vii, 2018
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Ok I'll practise that and let y'all know, and I had a gtx 1050 ti before the upgrade.
Sep 7, 2018
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It didn't have any brand names on it so I don't know about that though. I don't have information technology anymore.
Darkbreeze
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Ok, so you have to effigy that all of these prebuilt systems come with power supplies that are, by blueprint, intended to merely be enough for the hardware that the system comes with. In this case, a 1050ti, which calls for nigh a 350w PSU. And so they include a 460w PSU because they know there needs to be SOME corporeality of headroom plus it's non the greatest unit in the world and likely can only sustain maybe 400w of that 460w rating.

Non you have a 1070ti with almost a two hundred watt higher power need, so it'southward not surprising that the whole system is struggling.

Sep 7, 2018
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Ok so the psu is in a metal enclosure and I don't see how I can take it out since at that place are no screws just information technology'southward held tightly in place by something I tin can't meet. I think it's safe to assume that the psu only isn't adept enough for the gpu and I'll just get a skilful quality, new 550w or 600w psu and example.
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You say that you take some games where the GPU does run at ~99% usage so I would call back that irresolute the PSU wouldn't assistance your problem,information technology's a skilful idea to change out one-time low grade PSUs regularly anyway simply it won't brand your GPU run faster then 100%.
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  • #xix
This memory configuration is bottlenecking your organization: 8gb ddr4 2666 ram (1x8 single stick)
Games use upward all 8gb and so some and as a upshot your folio file increased causing more SSD I/O. On top of adding another 8gb stick of DDR4 2666 your system will be running in dual channel mode, every bit opposed to single. This will double your memory throughput for an overall improved performance.
Darkbreeze
Jun 24, 2014
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Yes, the retentiveness is likely problematic. It does not pose a risk to the hardware like the apply of a power supply that is not sufficient for the demands of the system AND is likely a low quality OEM style model likewise, does. I would worry about the retention later.

The power supply is likely behind a shroud. You volition probably need to have the side panel on the other side of the case, off, and the PSU likely either comes out that mode or you lot can see the label, maybe, from that side.

I wouldn't say that replacing the case is essential, unless you simply want to, only knowing what model of case or prebuilt system you accept would assistance usa give yous better advise and options, rather than just assuming that you'll accept to replace stuff. You never know, you could have a good example and power supply already and not know information technology although I call up that'due south pretty doubtful on the power supply side of things.

Anyhow, it'south up to y'all of form. I personally would desire to make certain my hardware did not get damaged by a power supply that zapped something when it died due to being over taxed and the protection declining because information technology was a cheap model, or any of ten other things that could occur.

Also, as far as the memory goes, at that place are Enough of people gaming on 8GB of RAM that don't take whatsoever substantial issues. It is not mandatory to have 8GB of RAM for gaming. Is information technology better? Is information technology advisable? Are you likely to have fewer performance related issues than with 8GB? Yes, yeah and yes. Is it essential? No, information technology'southward not. In that location are nonetheless very few games that recommend you have 16GB of RAM and none of those that do REQUIRE information technology.

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